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数据库补充 MB265

尉迟911 发表于 2013-11-15 13:45:03 浏览:  2032 回复:  8 [显示全部楼层] 复制链接
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这车是有尾翼的,只是我这个模型缺了...









模型描述:

道奇·神秘R/T(MB264)及道奇·蝰蛇 - 变体(MB265)都是几乎到达可以生产的阶段才被终止的。他们是来自1994年美国的一套电视剧"变体"(Morphed)里面的车,剧中那道奇·蝰蛇可以改变形状,即是变体!在模型设计阶段火柴盒厂方对车的有关资料得到的不多,但是他们也把模型制作出来了,甚至成品的样板及板卡都制作了,但这时才得知车身的外型不对,后来那电视剧也半途被废了, 可能因为这个原因所以这两款车没有正式生产。根据成品样板的资料,这两款车都是塑料底盘、泰国产、1994年版权Matchbox Int'l Limited、1/60比例。这里只是一个树脂模型。


(老陈可按上述资料作修改后更新MB264及MB265的数据库描述,谢谢)

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    HWATBIXY 发表于 2013-11-19 05:53:07 显示全部楼层
    学习了。总算看到大图了

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    chenly75 发表于 2013-11-19 17:04:07 显示全部楼层
    这车是有尾翼的,只是我这个模型缺了...


    模型描述:

    道奇·神秘R/T(MB264)及道奇·蝰蛇 - 变体 ...
    尉迟911 发表于 2013-11-15 13:45


    请提供英文原稿地址,我在另一处找到的文字有所不同。电视剧的名字叫Viper。这两台车似乎最终是Tyco量产的,但不是Matchbox常规系列,而是他们的电动遥控系列





    近照:





    我在另外一个论坛看到MCCH的老鸟David Tilley的发言:



    其中也有关于电视剧片名的问题,确实不叫Morphed。而且给出的理由是最初的树脂模型超宽,不符合火柴盒常规系列的包装要求。

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    发表于 2013-11-19 17:31:09 显示全部楼层
    哇!比照过之后发觉 Tyco 这 slot car 简直是一模一样呀!

    原稿是 Nigel Cooper 在 Matchbox Club (MICA) 的季刊 e-magazine #14 (2010年10月)发表的,原文是pdf,我截图吧:

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    我觉得他在人主要在英国,对美国发生的事情毕竟不是第一手资料,也不一定完全正确。我试把全文贴上来看看...

                 Matchbox Models that never made production


                                              By Nigel Cooper

    It is often interesting to speculate on which models Matchbox should include in the
    miniature range. There are many considerations to be borne in mind. I spoke to
    Dave Weise, the Matchbox Design Manager at Matchbox in Los Angeles, the
    headquarters of Mattel. He informed me that for today’s range there are strict
    budgetary implications and so approximately a third of the range had to be generic in
    nature. Obtaining licensing agreement with the manufacturers of the real vehicles is
    an on-going problem and today at least one member of the Mattel secretarial staff is
    employed full time following up licensing agreements.

    Ryu Asada is responsible for many of the generic designs. He spends much of his
    time looking for ideas for models in a wide variety of publications. Sometimes when
    licensing approval cannot be gained, he adapts a proposed model such that it cannot
    then infringe copyright.

    It is not possible to detail models that have recently been planned and then rejected
    as these ideas may be resurrected in the future. However, many collectors study the
    manufacturing numbers of the past and ponder what the missing numbers might be.
    Some models progressed further than others. Some reached a mock-up stage and
    others were almost complete. Generally the problem was concerned with licensing
    but sometimes there was a problem with manufacturing.

    I spoke with Paul Carr about the models that had not been completed during his
    many years at Matchbox. Paul remembers completing the drawings for a new Fork
    Lift Truck to replace the MB15 Lansing Bagnall version. It was to have been
    produced around 1980 and was called a Lancer Boss Fork Lift. It came complete
    with a roll cage. It seemed to have the go-ahead when it was pulled on the grounds
    of cost and a cage was fitted to the old Fork Lift instead.

    Paul also recalled that the 1980s were a difficult time for Matchbox and there was
    little money available for development. One idea was to produce a set of
    Convertibles using current models and produce them in a set at a higher price.
    These Convertibles were to have real folding roofs made from rubber –like material
    to replicate a soft top. The MB 6 Mercedes 350SL and MB 7 Volkswagen Golf were
    two of the planned series. The Lincoln Continental may have been a third. In order
    to give stability to the roof, thin metal bars, presumably wire, was to be encased in
    the rubber, as on the real vehicle. The models looked great and the roofs actually
    folded down. Drawings and prototypes were completed early in 1985 and the US
    arm of Matchbox had designed and produced and distributed leaflets for dealers,
    before the models were in production.

    Unfortunately, before production could commence it was found that the wire, which
    was N shaped with tiny hooks, had to be placed very carefully into the mould before
    the plastic could be pressure injected around the wire. The slightest misplacement of
    the wire would result in damage to the mould. This could cause enormous expense
    as replacement moulds would have to be made. In the event, the idea was shelved.
    The Nissan Cedric was intended primarily as a model for the Japanese market. The
    drawings and the expensive to produce wooden pattern had been completed in
    Hong Kong, but not the moulds. The research and design department in London was
    rarely happy with Hong Kong designs as they often were not accurate enough. This
    appears to be the reason why the Cedric was not produced.

    The Dodge Stealth (264) and Viper Morphed (265) reached an advanced stage of
    production before they were halted. These models were to be miniature replicas in
    1:60 scale from a 1994 US television programme called “Morphed” where the Dodge
    Viper changed shape – or morphed!! There was very little information available at
    the design stage and though the models were made and samples were produced
    and blister packs created, it was decided that the body shape was not right. I think
    there was only a pilot television programme and the series did not proceed further.
    One of these models on US e* sold for $263 some years ago but I have never
    seen another up for auction.

    The two silver Viper models shown here are differentiated by the fact that one has
    been decorated with bullet holes, though this decoration is not very realistic. The

    models are identical otherwise. They have a tan interior and heavily tinted grey
    windows. The black plastic base indicates that they were manufactured in Thailand
    in 1994.

    The Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo was painted black with decoration to front and rear
    lights. It is also in 1:60 scale and has the full 1994 date cast on the plastic, Thailand
    base. It has a tan interior and also Matchbox Int’l Limited cast into the base.

    The second Stealth has an unpainted body with a blue plastic interior and a cream
    plastic base. It is also complete in terms of date, scale and country of manufacture.

    A green and black version with opaque silver windows sold at Vectis a few years ago but I cannot
    verify the final bid

    The Ford GT90 was a concept car. It was unveiled in January 1995 at the Detroit

    Motor Show as "the world's mightiest supercar".

    Its claimed top speed was 235 mph (378 km/h) from a 720 hp (537 kW;730 PS)
    quad-turbocharged V12 engine DOHC,the exhaust of which was claimed to be hot
    enough to damage the body panels, requiring ceramic tiles similar to those on the
    space shuttle to prevent this.

    The mid-engined car was a spiritual successor to the Ford GT40, taking from it some
    styling cues, such as doors that cut into the roofline, but little else. All angles and
    glass, the Ford GT90 was the first Ford to display the company's "New Edge" design
    philosophy. The GT90 was built around a honeycomb-section aluminum monocoque
    and its body panels were moulded from fibre.

    The GT90 was built by a small team in just over six months and, as a result,
    borrowed many components from another high profile stablemate, the Jaguar XJ220.
    The all-round double wishbone suspension and the five-speed manual gearbox
    came from the Jaguar, while the engine was a 4.6L DOHC V8 block (from the
    Lincoln Mark VIII) with 2 cylinders cut off.

    The GT90's 48-valve V12 was a six-litre engine which, if Ford had ever produced it in
    volume, might have produced up to 720 hp (537 kW), thanks to four Garrett
    AiResearch T2 turbochargers. The engine was based on the Ford Modular engine.
    Two Lincoln V8 engines each had portions removed, namely the last pair of cylinders
    from the rear of one engine and the first pair of cylinders from the front of the other
    engine and the cut down engines were welded together. In total, this yielded a 90-
    degree V12, with 90.2 mm bore and 77.3 mm stroke.

    In the Top Gear episode first broadcast on October 26, 2003, Jeremy Clarkson
    stated "I actually drove this and it was horrid. It had a top speed of 40 (mph) and it
    handled like it was in a cartoon".

    The Matchbox model of the Ford GT90 only reached a resin stage, when it was
    inexplicably dropped.


    The Green Hornet’s Car called Black Beauty also only reached the resin stage. I
    believe this was because Johnny Lightning had got in first with the licensing and so
    the project was dropped. Corgi also later produced a 1/36 scale version of this
    model. The Matchbox version was painted black as on the real thing and the front
    grille was painted silver to simulate the hinged radiator grille which concealed the
    firing missile. The actual car was based on a 1966 Chrysler Imperial. The list below
    refers to a Star Car version but I do not believe that this was proceeded with either.


    Some of the later models listed were released in a different series such as Real
    Talkin’ as shown. This was generally because production costs exceeded the budget
    and so the models were used in a more expensive range. The strange looking
    Caterpillar type tractor with a black plastic blade was possibly planned for the CAT

    range but it was not developed further. Though a base has been fitted, it has no
    markings. It has black plastic rollers and blade, a transparent cab and an unpainted
    body.

    The other two models were mock-ups. One seems to have been made around the
    time of the Weasel and Swamp Rat as it includes the base from the former and the
    soldier from the latter.


    I have no idea about the background of the Road Roller painted blue and white. It
    may not even be Matchbox in origin though it came from the factory.
    I include a list below of models that were planned. Any other information on this
    article would be much appreciated. MBC


    MAN#  MODEL NAME
    136     Nissan Cedric (Japanese)
    241     Toyota MR 2
    242     Chevrolet Camaro RS Cabriolet
    243     Toyota Celica GT 4
    253     Bugatti EB 110
    264     Dodge Stealth R/T
    265     Dodge Viper - Morphed
    305     Ford GT 90
    349     Peterbilt Dump Truck (Caterpillar)
    355     Black Beauty - Green Hornet Car (Star Cars)
    364     '65 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
    365     '65 Pontiac GTO Convertible
    385     Snack Truck (Real Talkin)
    386     RESCUE TRUCK (Real Talkin)
    387     Garbage Truck (Real Talkin)
    395     VOLVO Truck with Closed Tank (Adventure Pack)
    396     Fire Truck (Real Talkin)
    414     M 34 2.5 Ton Truck (only Feature Cars)
    415     M 3 A 2 Half Track (only Feature Cars)
    435     2000 Ford Thunderbird (only Feature Cars)
    454     VW Microbus Concept
    467     FORD LTD Sedan (only Character Cars)
    471     JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE with Vee Roof Light (D.A.R.E.)
    478     Dodge CATTLE TRUCK (without cattle)
    479     FORD PANEL VAN (without roof equipment)
    511     FORD CROWN VICTORIA Police Car (opening doors)
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    刚才查过 wiki,电视剧的确叫 Viper,1994年是该剧的第一季,当中是有一辆Viper可以变形。其后1996-1999该剧还演了三季但好像没有变形车了...

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    chenly75 发表于 2013-11-19 17:47:23 显示全部楼层
    ok, 从264的绿底黑条试制版图片来看,与David Tilley的图片是同一张图(相同的角度和后轮毂反光面及背景色调等)。由此我更愿意相信David Tilley的评论。因为那是一部美国电视剧,且没有在美国以外地区上映。片名应该叫“VIPER”,其中的道奇蝰蛇可以变形"morphed"成为MB265的形态,也就是所谓Viper Morphed的名字由来。
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    发表于 2013-11-19 17:52:24 显示全部楼层
    大使不知道那绿黑条子车拍卖了多少钱,他可以直接问David Tilley啊 [em01]
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    ...由此我更愿意相信David Tilley的评论。因为那是一部美国电视剧,且没有在美国以外地区上映。片名应该叫“VIPER”,其中的道奇蝰蛇可以变形"morphed"成为MB265的形态,也就是所谓Viper Morphed的名字由来。 ...
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